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Here is a brief introduction to some of the mysterious European carping techniques I use.

here is a bait needle, 2 rigs and a card of "boilie stops"

the needle is not nessecary, but a big help if you plan on doing a lot of carp fishing. as mentioned on our "resources page" you can bend a hook straight in a pinch, but these things do far less damage to the bait and only cost $1.

the boilie stops can easily be replaced by a stick, but i think they will hold a little bit  better, and we all know that a key part of fishing is confidence in your gear.

the two rigs are both tied on gamakatsu "g-carp" hooks size 4 and 1. they are one of my favorites, because they are sharp as could be, they hold a point pretty well, and they really hold fish well.  they can easily be replaced by eagle claw baitholders size 6 or 8, which i used for years.  the corn is "field corn" or "maize" that i bought at a horse feed store, and boiled. i'll get to that in a minute. the boilie is a 20mm, essential opal flavor by mainline baits.  20mm is a bigger boilie. you can get them from 10-24 most places they are sold.   


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here are 3 kinds of corn. canned sweet corn up top, dried feild corn left, and boiled feild corn bottom.

boiled feild corn has a lot of advantages to a serious carper.  it is much stronger, for staying on the hair while sunnies and other non-target fish play with your bait. it's $4-10 for a 50 lb sack dry. and as you can see it swells to a bigger size than sweet corn. it isnt nearly as sweet though, and has no salt in it, so adding a little sugar or karo syrup and a dash of salt while it cooks is a good idea.  to prepare it first soak for a day or two in water. then boil till it's soft enough to put your needle through without cracking it.

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here is my usual hair rig. the hair is around an inch. can you see how the line enters the eye of the hook? that angle makes the hook turn in the fishes mouth towards the flesh, usually right in the bottom lip. don't put the line through the wong way.   You can put your bait on the loop before tying the rig. that way you can be sure to have just the right distance between the bait and the bend of the hook. 




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here is a complete rig that i used with confidence for a long time. 3 oz sinker for bolt style action. it's held on by a "safety clip." i'll break down the safety clip in a second. 



the boilie is a "pop-up" and it is weighted down with one piece of field corn. without the corn, it would float the hook. i often sink the pop-up with a 10mm boilie instead. basically i try to achieve what carp nerds call neutral buoyancy. it makes the bait light weight, and that helps it fly right into the fishes mouth. sometimes carp try to suck food up from inches away... i'd like to give them every opportunity to do that. this is particularly effective in the winter, when fish are slow, and have a hard time making any complicated maneuvers. pop-ups are also made by main-line, as well as a thousand other companies... a bit difficult to make yourself though.



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here is a broken apart safety clip. i understand that a lot of people are squeemish about using a 3oz weight. give it a try some time, you actually get stuck less, not more... i promise.  anyway, the safety clip is designed to release the weight if it ever does get stuck. you really have to yank hard to get it to happen. the idea is that if it gets stuck while you are fighting a fish, you wont loose the fish. moreover, if your line breaks above the weight during battle,the weight wont tether the fish to it's doom. the fish can break the weight off pretty easily pulling in that direction. basically, the swivel is sized to snap into the clip, the weight slides into the slot on the plastic part, and the rubber sleeve covers that up.  i have used up about 5 of these in the last 4 months. all 5 were lost in the same snag on the same day.... i have fished about a million times with the same two clips since then. so they really last a long time if you buy a good brand.  in my opinion, the two best kinds are pallatrax brand, and korda. both are available at http://www.bigcarptackle.com  



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i hope that answers a lot of questions for a lot of people. i know that i had to track down all of this stuff in about a thousand places before i figured it out!

sooner or later, i'll post some recipes for boilies, dough baits, and method balls.



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i would also just like to say that there a million other rigs, a million other tactics and a million other opinions about all of these things. the best way to learn will always be to spend time on the water. you will come up with ideas of your own.


here is a thread from the carp anglers group forum in which lots of people posted all different rigs:

http://www.carpanglersgroup.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=12&t=7202&hl=galore&s=43f0c2793a645e8e4fba6274ca4e2a55

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here is a some very detailed images and explanation of most popular carp rigs on http://www.americancarpsociety.com:

http://www.americancarpsociety.com/cypr_2tam_rigs.html

their whole "Cyprinology" section is a great read for those of you who are interested in learning about carp fishing.

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So, I thought I would add to this, given the discussion on "cinder block fishing" as WG has described it.  To European anglers, it is described as fishing the "method", US paylakers/carp anglers call it packbait.  Either way, the general idea is packing a semi-moist ball of attractive food around your lead and hookbait to attract the carp and trick it into taking your bait that is sitting in a pile of food.

 

My standard mix consists of pellets (rabbit, chicken or koi food pellets -- somewhat similar to cat or dog food), and various particles (bird seed, millet, various peas, oats, maize and or/sweet corn etc..).  Sometimes I will also add calf milk replacer (high fat powdered  milk) as a binder.  I like a mix of about 40/60 pellets/particles.  Sometimes I'll add a special flavor, like strawberry or a carp favorite, mullberry.  Basically, you mix the particles and pellets and add some water to help break the pellets down.  You must keep mixing it until the pellets are broken down and you can squeeze a ball together.  I think the bait is best prepared a few hours before fishing because it gives the pellets time to break down and absorb the flavor and scent of particles.

 

Here's what it looks like:

 

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So, your mix is binding nicely and its time to set up.  The standard bolt rig described earlier in this thread is the perfect rig to use.  I suggest a 2-6oz lead, depending on the current you are fishing.  I generally use 3 or 4oz. 

 

First, make a baseball sized ball of the bait mix.  pack it as tight as possible.  Then, jam the lead into the center of the ball.  Then, pack the bait around the lead as tight as possible.  jam the hook in the ball, but let the bait on the hair dangle out.  This will help prevent tangles during the cast, and your hook bait will be in the pile of the food.

 

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Basically, the ball of food around the lead disintegrates quickly and there is a cloud of particles of scent floating away as the ball crumbles under water.  The goal is to attract the fish, get them feeding and hopefully the fish will pick up the hook bait quickly, because it is the biggest peice of food in the pile.

 

This bait mix is also really convenient for chumming.  After casting, you can use a sling shot to fire out a few extra balls of free food over top where you just cast, so there's plenty of free food in the area.

 

Casting the method takes practice, and a rod that has a soft tip, yet stiff butt section to handle casting this ball of bait.  I can assure you, once you find a mix you are comfortable with, it will account for alot of carp on the bank.  ALOT.

 

Hopefully the result is this:

 

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